2019 Hyundai Santa Fe Test Results; Automotive Trends We’re Thankful For | Talking Cars #178


Hey, Talking Cars fans. We’re go into the 2018
Los Angeles Auto Show, and we want to hang out with
you, our podcast audience, while we’re there. We’re hosting a meetup at the
Arts District Brewing Company on Wednesday, November
28, from 7:00 to 9:00 PM. Come join us, and we’ll
talk about cars, including our favorites from the show. So send us a text or an email
to [email protected] to let us know if you can attend. Hope to see you there. The test results from the
2019 Hyundai Sanofi are in. We talk about that, as well
as celebrate Thanksgiving, talking about all
the things we’re thankful for in the automotive
world next on Talking Cars. [THEME SONG] Welcome to a very
special Thanksgiving edition of Talking Cars. I’m Mike Quincy. I’m Jennifer Stockburger. And I’m Jake Fisher. So whether you’re just
listening or you’re watching, in front of us
is a wonderful cornucopia laid out on our table
here, getting us totally into the Thanksgiving mode. We’re ready to celebrate
all things automotive and to talk about
the things that we’re thankful for in
the world of cars. But before we get to that, we
have some recently released test results of a
very popular car, and we’re going to mix
things up a little bit, because we’re going to start out
with a question, which leads us into this. The question is, what are your
impressions of the 2019 Hyundai Santa Fe, a very popular
model by Hyundai? And they got a lot
riding on this. They sell a ton of these. Jen, you’ve got a lot of
experience with Santa Fe. Right, so I was telling
you guys this story. We– my family, my
husband and I actually bought an earlier Santa Fe. I think it was ’07. It was actually test
vehicle from the track. Back then, we had little kids. And what I say about
the Santa Fe is that was the perfect sized
car for us at the time, and I would say it
still is for a family, even families with bigger
kids like I have now. It’s roomy. I do appreciate–
and the new one, that it doesn’t
alienate you in terms of controls and everything. It’s got a traditional
gear selector. Just a straight forward Hyundai. Hyundai’s done a great
job with infotainment. Even as simple as
pairing your phone, they’ve made it really
easy, but still giving you all the capability. We had a really nice one
limited with leather. I would still say that that is
a good car for a small family. That was a real
transition for a Hyundai. They went from having kind
of a junky little Santa Fe to this redesigned one. Right, with that first nice one. It was really big step up. But now, for 2019,
Hyundai is kind of shifting the naming
of this vehicle. Well, it’s still Santa
Fe, but it’s a little odd. So there was the Santa Fe Sport. So the Santa Fe Sport was
actually a smaller version of the Santa Fe– No third row. No third row. The new Santa Fe is actually
the replacement for the Santa Fe Sport, but they’re still
selling the old Santa Fe. Keep up. Keep up. You got that? [INTERPOSING VOICES] So you’ve got two Santa Fe’s. So they changed the name
of the current Santa Fe to the Santa Fe Excel– Which has the third. Which has the third seat. So while this really isn’t truly
a successor of the Santa Fe, it’s called the “Santa Fe.” It’s a little bit smaller. It’s only two rows. A lot of them are going to be
sold with just a 2.4 liter, four-cylinder engine. Ours, we kind of got the more– Higher-end one. The higher-end one, which
is a two-liter turbo. So no V6 on this vehicle. I think ours was a V6. Back then it was, yeah. [INTERPOSING VOICES] That’s what we tested. And look, there’s a lot of nice
things about 2019 Santa Fe, but you don’t have the third-row
seat of the old Santa Fe. You also don’t have that
V6, which was terrific. Because there’s lots of torque. You’ve got this
two-liter, which when you see all these new cars going
to these smaller displacement turbos. And the sad truth is,
for a lot of them, they don’t work as well. There’s not as much
off the line, grunt. It’s not quite as
smooth power delivery. You can get the two, four, but
you don’t have as much power. It’s a little smoother. So it’s unfortunate. But the good news is, you still
could go buy the old Santa Fe, the Santa Fe Excel. And that vehicle does have the
V6, and it has a third row. Look, the new one,
I mean it’s nice. I mean, look, the
styling is cool. The interior styling
is really nice. It’s got the latest and
greatest infotainment, but the old one is
pretty good, too. Latest and greatest safety. Right, latest and
greatest safety. Better safety. I have to say that. You have to bring
it back [INAUDIBLE].. No, you’re absolutely right. But the truth is
is that if you’re interested in a vehicle
like that, I mean, you might want to consider the
outgoing Santa Fe, the Santa Fe Excel, or even the Kia– Sorento. The Kia Sorento, which is
also a three wheel with a B6. Now the truth is that Santa Fe
XL is kind of just for the time being. If they’re going
to replace that, they’re going to have
a big three-row SUV. They announced it as the
Hyundai Palisade, which I just– I had a friend who
add to Veracruz. Right. That was a pretty old,
kind of crude design. But it’s going to be a big
three rows if you need that. But right now,
there’s other choices. Just like Subaru, it’s only a
matter of time before Hyundai– Right. –gets back into the
big SUV business. Gets back in, right. I mean, that’s what a lot
of people are asking for. That’s right. That’s right. So yes, check out the test
results for the new Santa Fe. And that kind of brings
us to a reminder. We always get a lot of
questions here at Talking Cars, and we love getting them. So keep sending them to
[email protected], that’s [email protected] Video questions are awesome. We’d love to get to them,
as many as possible. But, really, we’re stepping away
from that format a little bit. And as we mentioned
in the intro, we’re going to be doing
a freeform format today. We’re going to be
talking about stuff that we are very thankful
for in the world of cars. And just kind of
throwing it out there, when we had our
pre-meeting about this– we had lots and lots
of great ideas– Jen, take it away. So at the risk of
sounding a little corny– Corny. Corny– I didn’t think that. You’re bad. Man. That’s terrible. That’s terrible. I am thankful for
safety features. And the reason I am– and
you’ve heard a little bit– certainly people
that listen often– we were able to put my
19-year-old daughter, who’s at college driving in New
Hampshire, driving in the snow, driving to this equestrian thing
in an affordable vehicle with the forward-collision warning,
automatic emergency braking– she’s using her phone, no doubt,
so Apple CarPlay is available, and it’s a present
that we got her. And I didn’t realize
how much peace of mind it was actually going to give
me until she was actually in it. I feel so much better
knowing that she’s reliably getting where she needs to
go and that these things are backing her up. You’re thankful for
the safety equipment– That’s new, and that
it’s available on a car I can afford to put her in. Right, and even
if– you know, when you’re in a position
of having to put your child into a used car,
we put a lot of emphasis on used car information
here at Consumer Reports and finding a vehicle,
a used vehicle, with also that safety
equipment as well. Yeah, for sure. So I mean, it’s not
just affordable new cars but because we’ve been pushing
for the safety equipment, I mean, even stability
control and all these things, I mean, now you could go
out– and I got a 15-year-old. It’s coming! It’s coming! He’s turning 15,
and he’s gonna– You’re almost there. –need a car in a year. At one point, we were doing
these teen car lists that were like, well, if you want
to get stability control, you’ve got to spend $10,000. No longer. You could go back,
and you can get a lot of really
nice used cars that have a lot of safety
equipment, which is really. And picking at a
reliable one, too. Right, right. Because it’s angst enough. so to put them in a car that
that’s decent is really good. Yeah, cars are getting safer. Yup. Thank goodness for that. I think we’re going to see
a lot of that theme today. Because– It’ll be surprising. Well, just thinking
about evolution, how cars have gotten better. And I know we talked
about that in our meeting. And Jake, you had a
few thoughts about how cars are– how they used
to be and how they are now. Sure, I mean, what’s interesting
is that with all of the rising fuel economy, and
emissions, and all the requirements and safety,
I mean, there was all these– you know, a lot of people were
like, oh, the sky is falling. No fun cars are going
to be in the future. And everything is
going to be this tank, and you can’t have no more high
horsepower cars or whatever. And right now,
we’re at this point where it is phenomenal from– you look at the super
cars that are out there. I mean, look, I get it. I’m not going to drive 250
miles per hour on the way home from work today. Today. But from an engineering
standpoint– We have a track. Haven’t been able to get
up to 250 on the track. 180, I think a few times. Anyway, let’s not go there. So we’re talking
about safety, right? Closed track, safe, don’t
try this at home, kids. But yeah, I mean, look
at the technology. I mean, it’s like, we’ve
pushed this technology because there are constraints
about fuel use and emissions. And there are cars
out there that meet all those requirements,
that go 270 miles per hour. That is amazing, unlike just
normal pump fuel that you get at the gas station. That’s crazy. That is amazing. But honestly, what
I am thankful for– and I’ll be just
very personal here, and this is going
to be corny, too. But it’s like I got
a neat job here. I mean, just back
up for a second. I mean, when I was a little kid,
I had always been into cars– I mean, since I was like four. I mean, everything
was about cars, cars. And I always imagined,
in the future, an unbelievable
success would be like I have this giant garage
with a different car I could drive every day. And– Here you are. I work at a non-profit, so
I don’t have the big garage. But I mean, what do we have? We have 50 or 60 cars out here,
all the latest technology, and we get to drive
them, everything. And we get to experience
this new technology. And the new technology
just keeps on flowing out. Right. We’re never bored. We’re never bored. I mean, what their car’s
going to accomplish, what they’re doing in terms
of partial automation, in terms of the technology,
and the cool thing about here– and look, there are other
places where people review cars. But what’s neat about
here is we don’t take advertising [INAUDIBLE]. I think it’s good to remind
everyone how Consumer Reports is different from the
no-ad policy, from the– we buy our own products. We really tell it like it is. And that is a great freedom. It’s a freedom. And I know. I have other people in industry
that do this type of thing, and it’s tough. Because yeah, I mean, if you’re
getting money from advertising, it’s like, do you really
want to say or say that? Right. It’s easier. It’s easier on us. We don’t take that lightly. I mean– Like Jay says, we
appreciate it every day. We don’t haphazardly
say, well, we don’t like this car this week. Back it all up. I really like that
perspective of being thankful, just for having this track,
for having these great video guys helping us put
these podcasts together. Great coworkers! Although, they make us wear
these sweaters sometimes. Well, yeah. Dave’s got this thing
about these corny sweaters. I don’t know. Yes. Ours are good. You what it comes from? It comes from that video. So a long time ago,
before we did videos– he’s going to kill me
for telling this story. But before we did videos,
I did a trial run. And I was wearing
this ’80s sweater. Nice. What was the car? What was the car? Pontiac Solstice. Nice. –in the snow. And we did this trial run. And I was wearing
this goofy sweater, and they’ll never let me
forget it, but that’s OK. The video guys are– Do you sill have it? The Solstice? No. [LAUGHTER] I’ll keep the Solstice,
lose the sweater. Lose the sweater. So I was thinking
about this question about what I’m thankful for. And like we mentioned, I’m
really thankful of the– what I see is a
really rapid evolution of the state of performance. I looked up some old
Consumer Reports issues, and in 1983, the top Ford
Mustang GT horsepower was 175. [LAUGHTER] Wow. We’re laughing now. Back then, that was something. And that’s not that long ago. It has a 5 liter V8. Wow. The four-cylinder Camry
is above that now. Right. Right? Right. And now, the Mustang GT for 2019
is putting out 460 horsepower. Back in the dark days
of the ’70s and ’80s– and they were dark days
if you were into cars– a mainstream model like
a Mustang putting up 460 horsepower– Unheard of. Unbelievable. I never thought I
would see that day. Well, and you look at
the Hellcats and stuff, what they’re doing. They’re over 700
horsepower on pump fuel. It’s amazing. The exhaust emissions
are a lot cleaner now than they were back then. And they’re meeting
their emissions for once. Well, I mean, the fuel
economy is better. The safety is better. The crash test, I mean, what
you’re sitting in is safer. All of that stuff is
unbelievable to me back then. It’s amazing what the car
companies can accomplish. And sometimes we sound
like a bunch of whiners. Because we’re like,
oh, we don’t like this. And the controls are bad. And all these things. And that’s true. But it’s like, you almost
have to sit back and say, it’s phenomenal what the
engineers and the car designers can accomplish. It’s a compromise. And on that line of
thinking, many years ago, part of Consumer Reports’
car evaluation protocol included an evaluation called
“Starting and running.” Do you remember that? And it would stay? No, I don’t remember that. That was before our time. That was before our time. Again, we’re going
back to carburetors. We’re going back to
when a car was cold if you can get it running. And if you got it running,
it would stumble, and cough, and choke. [MAKES CHOKING NOISE]
So we’ve really– We take all this
for granted now. We’ve gotten away from that. And I was also thinking
about how funny it is. The cars like the most
recently tested Jaguars that we’ve had that have
a start-stop system– so you come to a stop
light, engine shuts off, try to save gas, take
your foot off the brake, engine automatically restarts. Back in the day, you’d be
lucky if your old Jaguar– your old British car
would start once! Forget multiple times. [INAUDIBLE] keep starting
over and over and over. I think that’s incredible. Having the guts to turn
it off at a stop light? Ugh. So I mean, I’m
grateful that cars have gotten so much better. And you put it in
perspective of how neat it is to work in the track. When people find out that we
work for Consumer Reports auto test, inevitably, we’re asked,
what’s your favorite car? And honestly, for me,
the list is a mile long. It’s a hard question. Or it changes every week. It’s a hard question, yeah. You know, I haven’t
driven the new so and so. And, oh, now, that’s
my favorite car. Right. Right, right, right. I mean, there we are
with the state of cars and how good they are. We talk about, too,
all the little stuff. And we’re obviously hitting
on kind of the big stuff. We’ve been talking about
things that your cars have now that they didn’t when
you bought your last car. And it can be as– you know,
the push button start– the auto stop start. Bluetooth, couple
CarPlay, Android Auto. Couple CarPlay with Waze, too. With Waze! Everybody was
talking about Waze! Which was just a game-changer. One of my favorites
that I’m thankful for? That I don’t have to take
the fuel filler cap off. They’re all capless. It’s just awesome. One day– All that little stuff
adds into your overall of, I really like this car. Well, and suddenly, you
take it for granted. I mean, obviously, we’re
always driving the new cars– and taking all my
kids in these cars. And it’s like, I
remember we rented a car with rolled-up windows. It was like, What is this? What is this sorcery? And I thought it was
the coolest thing. And they’re like, one day,
we’ll see these things. And they were like, oh my god. You can imagine if they
saw a choke, you know? You gotta pull this out
and wait, to your point. You gotta pump the
gas a few times to get it in the carburetor. It doesn’t even make any sense. No. Right. Pumping brakes,
all these things– gone away. So we’re lucky that
we live in an era where the cars are so good. Maybe this is the
golden era of cars. We always heard, oh, in the
’50s, everything had style. They don’t make them
like they used to. Can you hear us in a few years? Back in my day? We’re going to be
doing it pretty soon. Thank goodness they don’t
make them like they used to. There you go. So that gives you
an idea of where we are in our state of
thankfulness in cars. And you often see the same faces
on Talking Cars every week. However, you need
to know that there are a whole bunch of people
that work behind the scenes that make this place run. And we’re really interested in
getting their faces on camera, giving you guys an idea
of who else works here, and asking them what they’re
thankful for in the world of cars. And we had our video guys
run around the office come bombard these folks, putting a
camera in their faces, saying, quick, tell us what
you’re thankful for. And here’s an idea
of what they said. [VIDEO PLAYBACK] – Hi, I’m Jeff Bartlett, deputy
editor for the Cars team. This year, I’m thankful for
the advances in technology. We’re seeing things with
power trains, safety systems, entertainment, all
kinds of innovations. This keeps the market very
interesting for us to follow. But we’re thankful also
for the consumers that read our magazines
and our website and provide information so
we know, is it just exciting? Or is it actually holding
up in the real world? – Hi, I’m Donna. I’m the receptionist here. And I really like the
Kia Sorento this year. – Hey, I’m Andrew. I’m a video producer
here at the track. My favorite thing or what
I’m thankful for the most is satellite radio
in our test cars. – Hi, this is Gabe Shenhar. I’m thankful this
year that there are– even though fewer
and far between, there are some
cars that are still fun to drive, like the Porsche
Cayenne, the Jaguar XE, and the Alfa Romero Stelvio. – Hi, I’m Kelly
Funkhouser, and I’m the program manager for vehicle
usability and automation. And I am most thankful for
safety equipment becoming standard on vehicles
so that we don’t have to ask for the equipment
from dealers by a funny name and have them not know
what we’re talking about. – My name is Anatoly. I am one of the
video producers here at the auto test center
at Consumer Reports. And this Thanksgiving, I am
thankful for my dream job. I get to shoot beautiful
images of beautiful cars every single day, and
I get to drive them. – Hey, it’s Mike Monticello. This year, I’m thankful for how
much the full-size pickups have improved, particularly
the RAM 1500. I really love
driving that thing. And the Ford F-150
is really nice, too. These things are so
capable now that they can take– they can an
act like a family sedan, yet you can still haul
bicycles, and motorcycles, and whatever else you need
to but in total comfort, and quiet, and still
plenty of power. [END OF VIDEO PLAYBACK] Well, weren’t those
responses interesting? There you go. That’s the rest of us. Yeah. Well, that’s going to about
wrap it up for this episode. As always, when you’re
interested to find out more information about the cars
or topics that we talked about, check out the show notes. We really appreciate
you tuning in. Happy Thanksgiving, everyone. We’ll see you next week. [OUTRO MUSIC]